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àùëåì: îéùäå øåöä âéçä ìéøåùìéí?

  1. #166
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    öéèåè ðëúá áî÷åø òì éãé kaz öôéä áäåãòä
    á÷åôú çåìéí éù òåã ãáøéí çåõ î÷åøåðä, åæä ìà çãù ùúåôñéí ãøò÷ ááéú çåìéí. àçã òí ùôòú, àçã òí àðâéðä, àçã ùçæø îàå÷øàéðä òí ççìú.. ëì îçìä åöåøåú ääòáøä ùìä.

    àôùø âí ìäâéã ùìðñåò áðúéá éîéï åìàåúú æä ëôéä. ùëì àçã éòùä îä áà ìå ëì òåã äåà ìà ùí àçøéí áñéëåï.
    àúä ùáåé á÷åðñôöéä ùâåéä îéñåãä åçáì.
    úùàì àú òöîê àéê ëì äöååú äøôåàé ùáà áîâò òí ä"îçìåú" ìà ðäéä çåìä.
    úùàì àú òöîê àéê áî÷åí äòáåãä àó àçã ìà áàîú "ðãá÷" îîéùäå ùáà ìòáåãä îúòèù.

    úøùä ìé ùåá. áôòí äàìó! ìäôðåú àåúê ìðéñåé ùðòøê òì çééìéí áæîï "îâéôú" ä"ùôòú" äñôøãéú.
    àí ÷ùä ìê úùúîù áâåâì èøðñìééè.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862332/
    https://hms.harvard.edu/magazine/pandemic/grip-disease

    Under the auspices of the U.S. Public Health Service and the Navy, Rosenau and his colleagues, in an effort to “determine the mode of spread of influenza,” tried to infect military volunteers with Pfeiffer’s bacillus at a makeshift infirmary on Gallops Island in Boston Harbor. Though human experiments were then seen as acceptable, in a paper later published in JAMA, Rosenau noted that the team “proceeded rather cautiously at first by administering a pure culture” of the bacterium.
    When the “trials proved negative,” he wrote, “we became bolder.” The scientists gave each of the volunteers “a very large quantity of a mixture of thirteen different strains of the Pfeiffer bacillus, some of them obtained recently from the lungs at necropsy.” They also inoculated the men with specimens taken from the throats and noses of influenza patients and later with the patients’ blood. Still no symptoms, so next the volunteers shook hands with, talked with, and were coughed on by the actively ill. They remained healthy.
    àáì ìà! áåà ð÷ùéá ìàìøåòé ôøééñ, ìæø÷ò ñãö÷é èã èåãøåñ åùàø ðà3éí


    ÷àæ éù áê çåëîä àñéîôèåîèéú

  2. #167
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    îäìéð÷ äøàùåï ùìê -
    The experience with the 1889–1890 pandemic taught medical authorities that pandemic influenza was a disease of very high morbidity and low case fatality, although it seemed that in the outbreaks immediately following a pandemic, morbidity rates could be expected to decline and
    case fatality rates to rise.
    This epidemiological research confirmed many of the findings from 1889–1890 about pandemic influenza's rapid spread, explosive local outbreaks, and very high morbidity rates.
    éù îçìåú îãá÷åú.. æä ùäîðâðåï ìà ðéúï ìùçæåø áðéñåé îáå÷ø (òí ëîä îùúúôéí? äàí ðúðå ìäí ìðåç áéï äðéñåééí? éëåì ìäéåú ù÷éáìå çéñåï èáòé àçøé çùéôä ìçééã÷éí îåçìùéí îäøéàåú ùì äâåôåú?) ìà àåîø ùùôòú/àðâéðä/ùçôú ìà áàîú îåòáø îàãí ìàãí áöåøä ëìùäé.

  3. #168
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    öéèåè ðëúá áî÷åø òì éãé kaz öôéä áäåãòä
    àæ îä òí äîùéìåú áðâá?
    ðøàä ìé ùîçëéí òí æä ìàçøé äçâéí. àåìé àçøé çðåëä? #àíìàéäéåâùîéí

    + äøëáú ä÷ìä àùëøä òåáãú. òìéúé áúçðú àìðáé, ðøàä îåù÷ò åéôä, ëì äëáåã.

    - äáðúé ùçéøáðå àú úáçéðé äðù÷ ìîúòðééðéí òí ñééâéí òì æîï ùòáø îäùçøåø. ìà îáéï ë"ë, ëàéìå îéùäå áï 45 ùäéä áâåìðé ìôðé 20 ùðä åäçìéè ìäåöéà øéùéåï, ìà èåá ìòåîú éåöà îâ"á áï 22?

    + ùîòúé ùðëðñ ùç÷ï çãù ùì èìååéæéä æåìä, freetv, åìà çñîå àåúå òí çå÷ ÷é÷éåðé áàîúìåú ùì øâåìöéä/ãîå÷øèéä çæ÷ä/ååèàáø. ëì äëáåã (ìà áöéðéåú).

  4. #169
    Senior Member äñîì äàéùé ùì mudale222
    úàøéê äöèøôåú
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    öéèåè ðëúá áî÷åø òì éãé kaz öôéä áäåãòä
    ðøàä ìé ùîçëéí òí æä ìàçøé äçâéí. àåìé àçøé çðåëä? #àíìàéäéåâùîéí

    + äøëáú ä÷ìä àùëøä òåáãú. òìéúé áúçðú àìðáé, ðøàä îåù÷ò åéôä, ëì äëáåã.

    - äáðúé ùçéøáðå àú úáçéðé äðù÷ ìîúòðééðéí òí ñééâéí òì æîï ùòáø îäùçøåø. ìà îáéï ë"ë, ëàéìå îéùäå áï 45 ùäéä áâåìðé ìôðé 20 ùðä åäçìéè ìäåöéà øéùéåï, ìà èåá ìòåîú éåöà îâ"á áï 22?

    + ùîòúé ùðëðñ ùç÷ï çãù ùì èìååéæéä æåìä, freetv, åìà çñîå àåúå òí çå÷ ÷é÷éåðé áàîúìåú ùì øâåìöéä/ãîå÷øèéä çæ÷ä/ååèàáø. ëì äëáåã (ìà áöéðéåú).
    òãééï ìà ðëðñå äúáçéðéí äçãùéí åäåöâä ø÷ èéåèä.
    áôåòì äúáçéðéí äçãùéí îøçéáéí îùîòåúéú àú îòâì ðåùàé äðù÷ ëé äí ðåúðéí ìëì îé ùéù ìå úòåãú ìåçí åòã 10 ùðéí àçøé äùçøåø ìäåöéà øéùéåï ðù÷ ùæä àåîø 05 åàôéìå 03 àí äééúä ìäí úòåãú ìåçí.
    ìà éãåò àí æä áàîú éáèì àú äøåáàé 07 ùäéä ììà äâáìú ùðéí.

  5. #170
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    îä ääñáø äìåâé ìîâáìä ùì 10 ùðéí?

    ìëì äôçåú æä àåîø ùàí îéùäå ìà çéãù, ìîùì äéä áçå"ì, åéöà ùòáøå ä-10 ùðéí, àæ äúáçéï ùìå áèì.

    éåöà ùéù òëùéå çìåï ùì ëîä çåãùéí (ùáåòåú?) ìîé ùäéä 07 åøåöä ìî÷ãç, ìäâéù á÷ùä åëå'.

  6. #171
    Senior Member äñîì äàéùé ùì mudale222
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    îä ääñáø äìåâé ìîâáìä ùì 10 ùðéí?

    ìëì äôçåú æä àåîø ùàí îéùäå ìà çéãù, ìîùì äéä áçå"ì, åéöà ùòáøå ä-10 ùðéí, àæ äúáçéï ùìå áèì.

    éåöà ùéù òëùéå çìåï ùì ëîä çåãùéí (ùáåòåú?) ìîé ùäéä 07 åøåöä ìî÷ãç, ìäâéù á÷ùä åëå'.
    éù áæä äâéåï âí àí àðé ìà àåäá àåúå. æä òðééï ùì ëùéøåú å"ìåçîðåú".
    àúä î÷áì àú äøéùéåï òì ñîê æä ùäééú ìåçí.
    ëëì ùçåìôéí äùðéí àúä ðäééä ôçåú åôçåú ámode äìåçîðé áîéåçã àí àéï ìê øéùéåï åàúä ìà ùåîø òì ùåí ëùéøåú.
    áëì îñâøú áéèçåðéú àúä éëåì ìùîåø ëùéøåú äøáä îàåã ùðéí (òùøåú àôéìå) àáì îäøâò ùòáø æîï îñåéí ùìà äééú áîéìåàéí\òùéú ëùéøåú, àúä öøéê "ìäúçéì îçãù"
    ùæä áãø"ë àåîø ìòæåá ëé øåá äàðùéí ìà îñåâìéí\øåöéí ìòùåú àú ääëùøä îäúçìä.
    ð÷ååä ùæä éøåëê\ìà ééëðñ.

  7. #172
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    á-20 ôéâåòéí äàçøåðéí ùäéå, ëîä îäàæøçéí ùòöøå àú äîçáì äéå öòéøéí ìåçîðéí, åëîä äéå îòì âéì 40 ðâéã?

    ðâéã ùëï îàáãéí ìåçîðåú. àé àôùø ìäúðåú áîòáø äëùøä îåøçáú ëìùäé?

    îåæø äñéôåø, ìà îáéï îé îøååéç îæä, îä äæååéú ôä.

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